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Sponsor |  Entranced | Mar 29, 2007 9:54am | | Do you? Is there a certain method you use? How do you find time in your busy life for meditation? |
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|  Leidja | Jun 6, 2007 12:42pm | The best thoughts on meditation I found were said by Krishnamurti : "Now, let us see if we can together feel the importance of meditation, and also perceive the beauty, the implications, the subtleties of it. To begin with, that word `meditation' has a very special significance to you, has it not? You immediately think of sitting in a certain posture, breathing in a certain way, forcing the mind to concentrate on something, and so on. But to me that is not meditation at all. To me meditation is entirely different; and if you and I are to share this inquiry into what is meditation, you will obviously have to put aside your prejudices, your conditioned thinking about meditation. That is true, I think, whether we discuss politics, or a particular system of economics, or our relationship with each other.
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If you are given to a particular form of so-called meditation, and the other is not, there can obviously be no sharing. You must let go of your prejudices and experiences, and he must also let go of his, so that both of you can look into the problem and find out together what is meditation."
Meditation must not be a specific time of the day where you do the lotus position. It can be done right now by putting aside the ego and really living the moment. You don't even have to concentrate, it has not to be an effort. You just have to be attentive to what is, until you know that there is no "I and the rest", but that everything is in everything.
I do practise the thing most people call meditation, but to me it is a practise to meditate, and not meditation itself. It puts you in a state of awareness where meditation can occur. Krishnamurti also said one thing wich is interesting to me, that meditation does'nt occur just by being still and aware. It's like when you open the window to let the wind enter. It does'nt enter because you opened it, but if it comes, it will enter. So, when you put yourself in a state of attention, awareness, meditation can occur.
Most meditation techniques may be good to me, but none makes the meditation "state". They all constitute an invitation for meditation to come. |
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|  aRTy-nz | Jun 6, 2007 9:11pm | Hi Entranced
Yes, I do vipassana meditation. You can learn a bit about it at dhamma.org [dhamma.org] but you cannot possibly have any idea about how powerful it is unless you do a 10-day course any more than a birth blind person can be told what colours are. I would recommend this form of meditation to anyone who is very serious about following a spiritual path or purifying their mind. You need to spend 10 days a year at a course and 2 hours per day in meditation, but the results are in proportion to that. If you are less serious, then TM will help to bring peace into a stressful life.
Be Happy
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Sponsor | | Entranced | Jul 2, 2007 3:59pm | Well the Dalai Lama says sleep is the best form of meditation. So I guess I've rather a pure mind. :)
But on a more serious note...arty-nz is that 2 hours straight, of meditation?
Not many people would find that kind of time on a day to day basis. |
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| | DocF | Sep 1, 2007 4:39am | | This is a great discussion! However much time you can devote to meditation will bring benefits. If it's only 5 minutes, then do that, but try to do a bit more when you can. At 30 minutes a day consistently my mind starts to settle. I try to do 45. A group sitting is a good thing. Try looking on the web under "buddhism" in your area. A retreat can really deepen practice, whether it's one day or one week. So start where you can, just try to make it a regular thing, and try to connect with other people where you live who can support the practice, that's a big help. |
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Sponsor | | Entranced | Sep 1, 2007 6:06am | Welcome DocF, it's nice to see some life breathed into the place.
I find at least 3, 5 to 10 minutes periods in a day. I have 3 young kids and with work don't get a lot of time. I even have chant music on my mp3 to destress or will will take 10 minutes out of my break at work to meditate. I work in a highly stressful place and find it help enormously. That or reading a little Pema Chödrön. |
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