Sponsor |  Entranced | Aug 11, 2007 6:28am | Why is it that certain people take pleasure in affecting others negatively?
What kind of positive outcome can there be in this for those who take the time to do it? If there is anyone out there who can step up and explain this to me I would very much appreciate it.
I have no desire for a power struggle with anyone. No desire to judge. Or to set someone up to make them feel at ease so I can in a moments time tear them down again.
Perhaps I am not as evolved as they? Or perhaps it's the other way around?
I'm here to be loving, thoughtful, understanding and forgiving to all and everyone who crosses my path. I feel we're all here for the same reason and so why would I want to undermine anyones journey?
Every person we meet has a message for us. Whether it be online or real life. Well I don't want the message these "ugly" minded people have to offer. Only that they are reminders that some people are on the wrong path. That they are here to test my faith and see if they can destroy who I am. Well they can't. I'm made of stronger stuff than the poison they spew.
I'm sorry for the rant. But I'm just fed up.
*hugs* & *love* to all of you..~e |
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Sponsor | | Bohemian-Spirit | Aug 11, 2007 8:22am | I share your feelings of confusion and pain over "mean people". I, too wonder in amazement at these people. I feel, very deeply, that these people have lost their connection to their higher source, and therefore have no innate connection with others.
We all need that connection (whether it is Jesus, Buddha, Spirit, etc.) in order to balance the material world with the spiritual. Without a strong connection to our spiritual natures, we become truly earth bound. That is, our priorities become those of earthly pursuits: money, power, status, etc. Without our connection to our spiritual natures, our egos take over and since ego is all about self, does not care how it treats others to reach its goal of self importance. It does whatever it takes to get what it wants.
The sad thing is that Spirit in the meantime is suffering. Those who are ego-driven cannot see the forest for the trees so to speak. They are so caught up in earthly desires that they have lost the ability to ever really be happy, for you cannot be happy and content as an ego-driven person. You will always be striving for happiness through physical means.
I think the best way that we can defend our own soul natures is to think along these lines and feel pity for the other person, knowing that they are adrift and will always be miserable.
Does any of this make any sense? |
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Sponsor | | Entranced | Aug 11, 2007 9:06am | Yes it does make sense. And I try and keep these kinds of thoughts in my heart when I'm in the thick of it.
This one particular person is religious. But as you said her pursuits of power and the material have blurred her purpose on earth.
The look in her eyes when she is being cruel to people. Sheer pleasure. It's really shocking to see her go off the way she does. |
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Sponsor | | gyrlcentric | Aug 11, 2007 9:35am | | i think sometimes people get lost in religion and lose their spirituality. |
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Sponsor | | Bohemian-Spirit | Aug 11, 2007 9:38am | To me, religious does not equate to spiritual. Religious people who proclaim to love God and do not live by the teachings of God are going through the motions. Clearly this woman chooses a religious life in order to further her image on earth. I don't know of any religion that would support her actions of tyranny.
The "sheer pleasure" look in her eyes is her ego getting its way. Her ego is feeding off of the displeasure and discomfort of others. Her ego is clearly in control of her at this point.
Entranced, you are a beautiful soul who has a clear balance between the material and spiritual worlds. Hmmm...sounds like an 8 to me. LOL Seriously though, you have been through hell on earth and back, and have come out stronger and more spiritual than ever. Your challenge now as I see it is to make sure that you protect your own ego at this point.
Ego is essential in our earthly journey because it is what makes sure that we take care of ourselves (eating, sleeping, learning, etc.) If we allow others to belittle and badger us, our ego can no longer function in a healthy way. Your spirit is strong darling, let it help guide you in protecting your precious ego, so that you do not find yourself in a bad place mentally and physically.
Do things that are good for both the ego and the soul. Embrace your children and their unconditional love for you. Get that patchouli out and bask in its healing powers. Do whatever you have to do to nourish yourself body and soul so that you have the strength and determination to stand up to this pathetic, ego-centric, witch.
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Sponsor | | Entranced | Aug 11, 2007 9:40am | It's true you know. She follows all the dogma. But is one of the most spiritually void people.
I actually heard her say to a new trainee last week. "You should treat people the way you expect to be treated" !!!!! I almost lost my coffee! Imagine, someone treating her the way she treats others??? But then maybe outside someone does. I'm not judging her...just questioning her ethics.
B~Spirit I am trying so hard not to allow this to affect me. I have just cranked up the charm at work and when she starts on me I look her in the eyes...only really I am looking right through her.
Maybe if she really was a witch, she wouldn't treat people so... (; |
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Sponsor | | digits | Aug 11, 2007 9:47am | this is an explanation. as crappy as it is it's true. they really do hate themselves and so they use this form of "leveling"...whereby knocking you do they can feel okay. it is true.
this is why it's common in teenage years [ie, that sense of insecurity and awkwardness and usually outgrown when adolescence ends in most cases unless other factors would perpetuate it?]
i know these people. i have been on the receiving end when i didn't know how to handle it...not knowing what to do but feeling like i'd just eaten a crap sandwich. getting sick of feeling that way i began reading books and thoughts dealing with those issues specifically...and so i learned new tools. [eating crap sandwiches make me want to learn something so i don't have to have that taste in my mouth.]
easy answer. so i picked up a couple books and learned tools and then utilized them. sometimes i forget, sometimes i am still taken aback, sometimes i have to re-read or learn a new tool....but for the most part i am good at handling the difficult people...and i have gotten pro at NOT letting it affect any feelings of self worth. :)
oh and your post #3 Entranced... if she claims religiousity but then has pleasure in her eyes at cruelty...she is precisely the sort of person i was commenting on my about page for a period of time: using religion as an EXCUSE to be cruel, judgemental, condescending...and spiritual health is nowhere in that.
Getting religious for a second I'd say the cleverest thing the devil ever did was invent religion. Cause God didn't and neither did Jesus. Jesus said "Follow me" and that person you deal with is anti-jesus. so if she claims christendom just remember...i can claim myself as a piece of celery but it won't do anything except make me a liar.
spiritually healthy people do not crawl before anyone. we're strong as we walk our truth with integrity. we don't resist evil because we know that just feeds it more power. we don't try to "teach them" because pearls before swine is a waste of breath so we stay away from them too. as humans trying to get on in the day to day the best we can do with people like this is try to learn tools that prevent us from feeling lowered by them. That's it as far as i know.
I still feel sad when i see people attempting to make me feel bad or others feel bad. Sometimes i get quite pissy about it too. Of course i'll get angry sometimes too and so what? it's an emotion [and for a good reason too! sometimes we have to get quite angry before we're then willing to change something right?] not a death sentence. :) all these feelings are normal reactions so the BEST we can do [cause who wants to turn off their emotions?] is to try to preserve our OWN self worth in the face of these people [sometimes meaning maybe learning a new tool or practicing emotional detachment...see how i said "practicing?" LoL... or anything else we can try. maybe even repeating amantra and focusing on it when certain people start in: "i accept myself today. i am worthy of all things good. i accept myself today. i am worthy of all things good." or "bend like the wind. these are just words. bend like the wind. these are just words." etc...whatever could zone you FROM the focus on that negative junk back to YOU and your preciousity! ;)]
i'm serious. i've done all of the above. learned tools, emotional detachment, speaking in my mind a phrase over and over as i stare and nod at them to their face. i'll do one or some or either or all of the above within the next month i am sure of it. |
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Sponsor | | Bohemian-Spirit | Aug 11, 2007 10:01am | 6. Maybe if she were a real witch she wouldn't treat people so...
This is true, and probably a poor choice of words on my part, as I know a few people who are Wiccan who would NEVER, EVER treat people this way. Their spirits are strong and have no need to feed their egos in this way.
7. Digits, your experiences and the things you have learned give all of us here great perspective. Thank you for sharing with us so that we may learn, too. |
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Sponsor | | Entranced | Aug 11, 2007 1:38pm | Thank you for all the wisdom and support. I'm already contemplating going back tomorrow and what I'll have to face. Or hearing what others faced in my absence.
The best I can do at the moment is detach myself from the slings and arrows of this woman. It's just she is conjuring to have me removed. So I have to tread very carefully.
If I had another job with the same pay and benefits as this one I would leave. But I'm a single Mom with 3 kids and no other support. So I stick it out day after day, my family needs me to keep a roof over their head. And minimum wage won't do it.
You would think that because I have already been off on stress leave due to this same person it might have served as a reminder to her. Well it lasted 10 months and here I am back where I was nearly 2 1/2 years ago.
"Do what you will and harm none" is not in her make up. |
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